issue led soaps

[Btms]

For me the usp of TA has been the everydayness of it. Since Rob n Hellen,
I sense an influx of listeners wanting and peddling ideas for more issues
led stories. I suspect this is why I have begun to listen less. I don’t
know if “issues” are increasing in Ambridge or whether there is a change of
gear. I appreciate it began as a way to give advice to farmers but I
don’t think this is the same thing. It seems one band wagon after another
now.

TV soap are, imho, aimed at social influence through foregrounding a
variety of issues* and if the audience like this, I guess this is the way
TA will go. I hope I am wrong.

*I base this only on the trailers so I a may be quite wrong.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by Btms
For me the usp of TA has been the everydayness of it. Since Rob n Hellen,
I sense an influx of listeners wanting and peddling ideas for more issues
led stories. I suspect this is why I have begun to listen less. I don’t
know if “issues” are increasing in Ambridge or whether there is a change of
gear. I appreciate it began as a way to give advice to farmers but I
don’t think this is the same thing. It seems one band wagon after another
now.

I fear you are right.

Post by Btms
TV soap are, imho, aimed at social influence through foregrounding a
variety of issues* and if the audience like this, I guess this is the way
TA will go. I hope I am wrong.

Well, the _paying_ audience - or, the advertisers in the case of the
commercial soaps. In the case of the BBC in general and TA in
particular, it _might_ be that that's what the _new_ audience wants -
or, rather, what draws in the new audience, which is not the same thing
(those drawn in can just as easily drop out), but TPTB don't always seem
to grasp that.

Post by Btms
*I base this only on the trailers so I a may be quite wrong.

I don't even see the trailers for the main ones (square street or farm),
so can't comment.

[SODAM]

Post by Btms
For me the usp of TA has been the everydayness of it. Since Rob n Hellen,
I sense an influx of listeners wanting and peddling ideas for more issues
led stories. I suspect this is why I have begun to listen less. I don’t
know if “issues” are increasing in Ambridge or whether there is a change of
gear. I appreciate it began as a way to give advice to farmers but I
don’t think this is the same thing. It seems one band wagon after another
now.
TV soap are, imho, aimed at social influence through foregrounding a
variety of issues* and if the audience like this, I guess this is the way
TA will go. I hope I am wrong.
*I base this only on the trailers so I a may be quite wrong.

This seems horribly possible. TA has covered the gay marriage
issue,coercive control, rural housing shortage, racism (via Lexi),
surrogacy, adoption, unexpected death - twice recently, homelessness ( and
we might be in for another dollop of that*), food banks, drugs, single
parenthood (yet again) and perhaps Kate is warming up to “Me Too” in her
workplace.


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* Can we believe that the excellent Alison Steadman would be brought on for
a single episode? I could foresee Pat taking her in and problems with an
overcrowded house, as there are Chez Grundy.

[Sally Thompson]

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Post by Btms
For me the usp of TA has been the everydayness of it. Since Rob n Hellen,
I sense an influx of listeners wanting and peddling ideas for more issues
led stories. I suspect this is why I have begun to listen less. I don’t
know if “issues” are increasing in Ambridge or whether there is a change of
gear. I appreciate it began as a way to give advice to farmers but I
don’t think this is the same thing. It seems one band wagon after another
now.
TV soap are, imho, aimed at social influence through foregrounding a
variety of issues* and if the audience like this, I guess this is the way
TA will go. I hope I am wrong.
*I base this only on the trailers so I a may be quite wrong.

This seems horribly possible. TA has covered the gay marriage
issue,coercive control, rural housing shortage, racism (via Lexi),
surrogacy, adoption, unexpected death - twice recently, homelessness ( and
we might be in for another dollop of that*), food banks, drugs, single
parenthood (yet again) and perhaps Kate is warming up to “Me Too” in her
workplace.

I think you mean Alice! Kate is the one with the yurts.

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* Can we believe that the excellent Alison Steadman would be brought on for
a single episode? I could foresee Pat taking her in and problems with an
overcrowded house, as there are Chez Grundy.

Oh yes, I do foresee exactly that Pat will offer her a roof and maybe a
job. It may not be so overcrowded though, since Tom and Johnny aren’t there
any more.

[Fenny]

On 6 Apr 2018 17:37:39 GMT, Sally Thompson
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* Can we believe that the excellent Alison Steadman would be brought on for
a single episode? I could foresee Pat taking her in and problems with an
overcrowded house, as there are Chez Grundy.

Oh yes, I do foresee exactly that Pat will offer her a roof and maybe a
job. It may not be so overcrowded though, since Tom and Johnny aren’t there
any more.

+1 on the accommodation and job.

Do we know/guess how many bedrooms Bridge Farm has? If the Archer
children had a room each, there are 4 rooms. So unless Henry & Jack
share a room, none spare. If they do share a room, is the "spare"
room used as a bedroom, or something else?

But I suppose that all Ambridge houses have elastic sides unless we
have heard just how much too small they are for the current occupants.

[carolet]

Post by Fenny
On 6 Apr 2018 17:37:39 GMT, Sally Thompson
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* Can we believe that the excellent Alison Steadman would be brought on for
a single episode? I could foresee Pat taking her in and problems with an
overcrowded house, as there are Chez Grundy.

Oh yes, I do foresee exactly that Pat will offer her a roof and maybe a
job. It may not be so overcrowded though, since Tom and Johnny aren’t there
any more.

+1 on the accommodation and job.
Do we know/guess how many bedrooms Bridge Farm has? If the Archer
children had a room each, there are 4 rooms. So unless Henry & Jack
share a room, none spare. If they do share a room, is the "spare"
room used as a bedroom, or something else?
But I suppose that all Ambridge houses have elastic sides unless we
have heard just how much too small they are for the current occupants.

At one point they had Tom, Johnny, Helen and Henry living there, as well
as Pat and Tony. I understood that they all had separate rooms, but
maybe Henry was in with Helen or Johnny and Tom shared.

I think they had somebody living in a caravan some time ago (Johnny's
mum?). I don't suppose they still have the caravan.

[Fenny]

On Fri, 6 Apr 2018 19:06:50 +0100, carolet

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Post by Fenny
On 6 Apr 2018 17:37:39 GMT, Sally Thompson
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* Can we believe that the excellent Alison Steadman would be brought on for
a single episode? I could foresee Pat taking her in and problems with an
overcrowded house, as there are Chez Grundy.

Oh yes, I do foresee exactly that Pat will offer her a roof and maybe a
job. It may not be so overcrowded though, since Tom and Johnny aren’t there
any more.

+1 on the accommodation and job.
Do we know/guess how many bedrooms Bridge Farm has? If the Archer
children had a room each, there are 4 rooms. So unless Henry & Jack
share a room, none spare. If they do share a room, is the "spare"
room used as a bedroom, or something else?
But I suppose that all Ambridge houses have elastic sides unless we
have heard just how much too small they are for the current occupants.

At one point they had Tom, Johnny, Helen and Henry living there, as well
as Pat and Tony. I understood that they all had separate rooms, but
maybe Henry was in with Helen or Johnny and Tom shared.

I'd guess back then, Henry shared a room with Helen.

Post by carolet
I think they had somebody living in a caravan some time ago (Johnny's
mum?). I don't suppose they still have the caravan.

Sharon in the caravan was before John and the tractor rolling
incident, so more than 20 years ago. I assume the caravan has passed
it's useful life.

[Mike]

Post by Fenny
On Fri, 6 Apr 2018 19:06:50 +0100, carolet

Post by carolet

Post by Fenny
On 6 Apr 2018 17:37:39 GMT, Sally Thompson
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* Can we believe that the excellent Alison Steadman would be brought on for
a single episode? I could foresee Pat taking her in and problems with an
overcrowded house, as there are Chez Grundy.

Oh yes, I do foresee exactly that Pat will offer her a roof and maybe a
job. It may not be so overcrowded though, since Tom and Johnny aren’t there
any more.

+1 on the accommodation and job.
Do we know/guess how many bedrooms Bridge Farm has? If the Archer
children had a room each, there are 4 rooms. So unless Henry & Jack
share a room, none spare. If they do share a room, is the "spare"
room used as a bedroom, or something else?
But I suppose that all Ambridge houses have elastic sides unless we
have heard just how much too small they are for the current occupants.

At one point they had Tom, Johnny, Helen and Henry living there, as well
as Pat and Tony. I understood that they all had separate rooms, but
maybe Henry was in with Helen or Johnny and Tom shared.

I'd guess back then, Henry shared a room with Helen.

Post by carolet
I think they had somebody living in a caravan some time ago (Johnny's
mum?). I don't suppose they still have the caravan.

Sharon in the caravan was before John and the tractor rolling
incident, so more than 20 years ago. I assume the caravan has passed
it's useful life.

Might have chuckies in it now then?

[Sam Plusnet]

Post by SODAM

Post by Btms
For me the usp of TA has been the everydayness of it. Since Rob n Hellen,
I sense an influx of listeners wanting and peddling ideas for more issues
led stories. I suspect this is why I have begun to listen less. I don’t
know if “issues” are increasing in Ambridge or whether there is a change of
gear. I appreciate it began as a way to give advice to farmers but I
don’t think this is the same thing. It seems one band wagon after another
now.
TV soap are, imho, aimed at social influence through foregrounding a
variety of issues* and if the audience like this, I guess this is the way
TA will go. I hope I am wrong.
*I base this only on the trailers so I a may be quite wrong.

This seems horribly possible. TA has covered the gay marriage
issue,coercive control, rural housing shortage, racism (via Lexi),
surrogacy, adoption, unexpected death - twice recently, homelessness ( and
we might be in for another dollop of that*), food banks, drugs, single
parenthood (yet again) and perhaps Kate is warming up to “Me Too” in her
workplace.

With Kate, it's far more likely to be "Me Me Me ME!".

[Paul Herber]

Post by Btms
For me the usp of TA has been the everydayness of it. Since Rob n Hellen,
I sense an influx of listeners wanting and peddling ideas for more issues
led stories. I suspect this is why I have begun to listen less. I don’t
know if “issues” are increasing in Ambridge or whether there is a change of
gear. I appreciate it began as a way to give advice to farmers but I
don’t think this is the same thing. It seems one band wagon after another
now.
TV soap are, imho, aimed at social influence through foregrounding a
variety of issues* and if the audience like this, I guess this is the way
TA will go. I hope I am wrong.
*I base this only on the trailers so I a may be quite wrong.

I was confused. I thought why on earth do we need LEDs in soap, assume the soap is
transparent or translucent, what colour LEDs, how would the battery survive in the water?
To whom would these be issued?

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

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Post by Paul Herber

Post by Btms
For me the usp of TA has been the everydayness of it. Since Rob n Hellen,

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Post by Btms
TV soap are, imho, aimed at social influence through foregrounding a

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Post by Paul Herber

Post by Btms
*I base this only on the trailers so I a may be quite wrong.

I was confused. I thought why on earth do we need LEDs in soap, assume the soap is
transparent or translucent, what colour LEDs, how would the battery survive in the water?
To whom would these be issued?

Now that you have sown the idea, I bet there is someone in one of the
tat manufacturers considering the idea, probably in time for Christmas..

[Clive Arthur]

Post by Paul Herber

Post by Btms
For me the usp of TA has been the everydayness of it. Since Rob n Hellen,
I sense an influx of listeners wanting and peddling ideas for more issues
led stories. I suspect this is why I have begun to listen less. I don’t
know if “issues” are increasing in Ambridge or whether there is a change of
gear. I appreciate it began as a way to give advice to farmers but I
don’t think this is the same thing. It seems one band wagon after another
now.
TV soap are, imho, aimed at social influence through foregrounding a
variety of issues* and if the audience like this, I guess this is the way
TA will go. I hope I am wrong.
*I base this only on the trailers so I a may be quite wrong.

I was confused. I thought why on earth do we need LEDs in soap, assume the soap is
transparent or translucent, what colour LEDs, how would the battery survive in the water?
To whom would these be issued?

Ellie D ?

Cheers

[Vicky]

Post by Paul Herber

Post by Btms
For me the usp of TA has been the everydayness of it. Since Rob n Hellen,
I sense an influx of listeners wanting and peddling ideas for more issues
led stories. I suspect this is why I have begun to listen less. I don’t
know if “issues” are increasing in Ambridge or whether there is a change of
gear. I appreciate it began as a way to give advice to farmers but I
don’t think this is the same thing. It seems one band wagon after another
now.
TV soap are, imho, aimed at social influence through foregrounding a
variety of issues* and if the audience like this, I guess this is the way
TA will go. I hope I am wrong.
*I base this only on the trailers so I a may be quite wrong.

I was confused. I thought why on earth do we need LEDs in soap, assume the soap is
transparent or translucent, what colour LEDs, how would the battery survive in the water?
To whom would these be issued?

Batteries might not survive but electrical items can. A few months ago
I lost a hearing aid as they fall out easily, especially if wearing my
glasses and a hood. They fight with the glasses. We looked all over as
they were free on the NHS but replacements are £50 per ear. I finally
got a replacement and of course the lost one was found, by b, in the
garden today, months later. It's been out in the rain and cold but he
cleaned it and put a new battery in and it works.

The odd thing is the one that tends to fall out lots is the right side
but this is a left side one.

[steveski]

On Sat, 07 Apr 2018 18:26:44 +0100, Vicky wrote:

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Post by Paul Herber
I was confused. I thought why on earth do we need LEDs in soap, assume
the soap is transparent or translucent, what colour LEDs, how would the
battery survive in the water?
To whom would these be issued?

Batteries might not survive but electrical items can. A few months ago I
lost a hearing aid as they fall out easily, especially if wearing my
glasses and a hood. They fight with the glasses. We looked all over as
they were free on the NHS but replacements are £50 per ear. I finally
got a replacement and of course the lost one was found, by b, in the
garden today, months later. It's been out in the rain and cold but he
cleaned it and put a new battery in and it works.

A couple of years ago I lost a memory stick. After an autumn and v. snowy
winter I found it on the drive, took it inside, dried it for a few days
and - you're expecting BANG! now in the way of these things . . . :-)

No, boringly but astonishingly (is that an oxymoron?) it was fine with no
loss of data.

[BrritSki]

Post by steveski
A couple of years ago I lost a memory stick. After an autumn and v. snowy
winter I found it on the drive, took it inside, dried it for a few days
and - you're expecting BANG! now in the way of these things . . .:-)
No, boringly but astonishingly (is that an oxymoron?) it was fine with no
loss of data.

They're solid state, probably didn't need to dry anything except the
contacts...

[Mike]

Post by BrritSki

Post by steveski
A couple of years ago I lost a memory stick. After an autumn and v. snowy
winter I found it on the drive, took it inside, dried it for a few days
and - you're expecting BANG! now in the way of these things . . .:-)
No, boringly but astonishingly (is that an oxymoron?) it was fine with no
loss of data.

They're solid state, probably didn't need to dry anything except the
contacts...

And any copper/gold tracks to the pins/pads.

[Nick Odell]

Post by Vicky

Post by Paul Herber

Post by Btms
For me the usp of TA has been the everydayness of it. Since Rob n Hellen,
I sense an influx of listeners wanting and peddling ideas for more issues
led stories. I suspect this is why I have begun to listen less. I don’t
know if “issues” are increasing in Ambridge or whether there is a change of
gear. I appreciate it began as a way to give advice to farmers but I
don’t think this is the same thing. It seems one band wagon after another
now.
TV soap are, imho, aimed at social influence through foregrounding a
variety of issues* and if the audience like this, I guess this is the way
TA will go. I hope I am wrong.
*I base this only on the trailers so I a may be quite wrong.

I was confused. I thought why on earth do we need LEDs in soap, assume the soap is
transparent or translucent, what colour LEDs, how would the battery survive in the water?
To whom would these be issued?

Batteries might not survive but electrical items can. A few months ago
I lost a hearing aid as they fall out easily, especially if wearing my
glasses and a hood. They fight with the glasses. We looked all over as
they were free on the NHS but replacements are £50 per ear. I finally
got a replacement and of course the lost one was found, by b, in the
garden today, months later. It's been out in the rain and cold but he
cleaned it and put a new battery in and it works.
The odd thing is the one that tends to fall out lots is the right side
but this is a left side one.

Are the shouty bits moulded to the ear canal? I've seen in-the-ear and
over-the-ear types of hearing aid which are moulded and a) transfer the
sound without too many extraneous leaks and b) tend to stay where you
put them

Nick

[Vicky]

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:05:47 +0100, Nick Odell

Post by Nick Odell

Post by Vicky

Post by Paul Herber

Post by Btms
For me the usp of TA has been the everydayness of it. Since Rob n Hellen,
I sense an influx of listeners wanting and peddling ideas for more issues
led stories. I suspect this is why I have begun to listen less. I don’t
know if “issues” are increasing in Ambridge or whether there is a change of
gear. I appreciate it began as a way to give advice to farmers but I
don’t think this is the same thing. It seems one band wagon after another
now.
TV soap are, imho, aimed at social influence through foregrounding a
variety of issues* and if the audience like this, I guess this is the way
TA will go. I hope I am wrong.
*I base this only on the trailers so I a may be quite wrong.

I was confused. I thought why on earth do we need LEDs in soap, assume the soap is
transparent or translucent, what colour LEDs, how would the battery survive in the water?
To whom would these be issued?

Batteries might not survive but electrical items can. A few months ago
I lost a hearing aid as they fall out easily, especially if wearing my
glasses and a hood. They fight with the glasses. We looked all over as
they were free on the NHS but replacements are £50 per ear. I finally
got a replacement and of course the lost one was found, by b, in the
garden today, months later. It's been out in the rain and cold but he
cleaned it and put a new battery in and it works.
The odd thing is the one that tends to fall out lots is the right side
but this is a left side one.

Are the shouty bits moulded to the ear canal? I've seen in-the-ear and
over-the-ear types of hearing aid which are moulded and a) transfer the
sound without too many extraneous leaks and b) tend to stay where you
put them
Nick

I don't know which are shouty bits. They hang over the eat and the
little box is behind the ear and a small tube goes into the ear with a
pod on the end. The moulded to the ear are very expensive and
apparently not on the NHS.

[LFS]

Post by Vicky
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:05:47 +0100, Nick Odell

Post by Nick Odell

Post by Vicky

Post by Paul Herber

Post by Btms
For me the usp of TA has been the everydayness of it. Since Rob n Hellen,
I sense an influx of listeners wanting and peddling ideas for more issues
led stories. I suspect this is why I have begun to listen less. I don’t
know if “issues” are increasing in Ambridge or whether there is a change of
gear. I appreciate it began as a way to give advice to farmers but I
don’t think this is the same thing. It seems one band wagon after another
now.
TV soap are, imho, aimed at social influence through foregrounding a
variety of issues* and if the audience like this, I guess this is the way
TA will go. I hope I am wrong.
*I base this only on the trailers so I a may be quite wrong.

I was confused. I thought why on earth do we need LEDs in soap, assume the soap is
transparent or translucent, what colour LEDs, how would the battery survive in the water?
To whom would these be issued?

Batteries might not survive but electrical items can. A few months ago
I lost a hearing aid as they fall out easily, especially if wearing my
glasses and a hood. They fight with the glasses. We looked all over as
they were free on the NHS but replacements are £50 per ear. I finally
got a replacement and of course the lost one was found, by b, in the
garden today, months later. It's been out in the rain and cold but he
cleaned it and put a new battery in and it works.
The odd thing is the one that tends to fall out lots is the right side
but this is a left side one.

Are the shouty bits moulded to the ear canal? I've seen in-the-ear and
over-the-ear types of hearing aid which are moulded and a) transfer the
sound without too many extraneous leaks and b) tend to stay where you
put them
Nick

I don't know which are shouty bits. They hang over the eat and the
little box is behind the ear and a small tube goes into the ear with a
pod on the end. The moulded to the ear are very expensive and
apparently not on the NHS.

The NHS one I had first - which was useless - was a moulded one.

Are the "pods" little latex domes? You can get different sizes and you
can also trim the skirt bits if necessary - if they are the correct size
they should stay in quite firmly. I find the arms of my specs hold
everything in place, too, as long as I put them on last.

[Vicky]

Post by LFS

Post by Vicky
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:05:47 +0100, Nick Odell

On 07/04/18 18:26, V

Post by Vicky

Post by Paul Herber
I was confused. I thought why on earth do we need LEDs in soap, assume the soap is
transparent or translucent, what colour LEDs, how would the battery survive in the water?
To whom would these be issued?

Batteries might not survive but electrical items can. A few months ago
I lost a hearing aid as they fall out easily, especially if wearing my
glasses and a hood. They fight with the glasses. We looked all over as
they were free on the NHS but replacements are £50 per ear. I finally
got a replacement and of course the lost one was found, by b, in the
garden today, months later. It's been out in the rain and cold but he
cleaned it and put a new battery in and it works.
The odd thing is the one that tends to fall out lots is the right side
but this is a left side one.

Are the shouty bits moulded to the ear canal? I've seen in-the-ear and
over-the-ear types of hearing aid which are moulded and a) transfer the
sound without too many extraneous leaks and b) tend to stay where you
put them
Nick

I don't know which are shouty bits. They hang over the eat and the
little box is behind the ear and a small tube goes into the ear with a
pod on the end. The moulded to the ear are very expensive and
apparently not on the NHS.

The NHS one I had first - which was useless - was a moulded one.
Are the "pods" little latex domes? You can get different sizes and you
can also trim the skirt bits if necessary - if they are the correct size
they should stay in quite firmly. I find the arms of my specs hold
everything in place, too, as long as I put them on last.

I do put specs on last but then pulling a hood over my head knocks the
aids out, and I take specs on and off lots. I could ask for another
assessment and say they fall out, but they knew that as I went back
for a new one when one got lost. Maybe the moulded ones the NHS do
are not as advanced as these.

[Nick Odell]

Post by Vicky
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:05:47 +0100, Nick Odell

Post by Nick Odell

Post by Vicky

Post by Paul Herber

Post by Btms
For me the usp of TA has been the everydayness of it. Since Rob n Hellen,
I sense an influx of listeners wanting and peddling ideas for more issues
led stories. I suspect this is why I have begun to listen less. I don’t
know if “issues” are increasing in Ambridge or whether there is a change of
gear. I appreciate it began as a way to give advice to farmers but I
don’t think this is the same thing. It seems one band wagon after another
now.
TV soap are, imho, aimed at social influence through foregrounding a
variety of issues* and if the audience like this, I guess this is the way
TA will go. I hope I am wrong.
*I base this only on the trailers so I a may be quite wrong.

I was confused. I thought why on earth do we need LEDs in soap, assume the soap is
transparent or translucent, what colour LEDs, how would the battery survive in the water?
To whom would these be issued?

Batteries might not survive but electrical items can. A few months ago
I lost a hearing aid as they fall out easily, especially if wearing my
glasses and a hood. They fight with the glasses. We looked all over as
they were free on the NHS but replacements are £50 per ear. I finally
got a replacement and of course the lost one was found, by b, in the
garden today, months later. It's been out in the rain and cold but he
cleaned it and put a new battery in and it works.
The odd thing is the one that tends to fall out lots is the right side
but this is a left side one.

Are the shouty bits moulded to the ear canal? I've seen in-the-ear and
over-the-ear types of hearing aid which are moulded and a) transfer the
sound without too many extraneous leaks and b) tend to stay where you
put them
Nick

I don't know which are shouty bits.

I meant the umbrella bits. Sorry for the confusion.

Nick