Sunday.

Post by honest gareth
Sunday is the traditional time to foment bonhomie amongst radio amateurs
and radio hams, so it is better that these NGs should have low traffic
than to be plagued with the gratuitous abuse that comes in a flood from
Chippenham?

Fuck off Cole.

Rambo

2017-06-04 16:11:20 UTC

On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 16:03:40 -0000 (UTC), Intelligent Rambo

Post by Intelligent Rambo

Fuck off Cole.

WHS.

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-04 17:10:07 UTC

yes 10m fm mobile was quite good today with my alinco and full size stinger
antenna ....

Brian Howie

2017-06-04 19:08:53 UTC

On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 18:10:07 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."

yes 10m fm mobile was quite good today with my alinco and full size stinger
antenna ....

Lots of SpE on 6m and 10m. I heard a loud PA on 14MHz, I also heard
our good buddies working the Skip on 27MHz, including one on morse
code and some on one the JT digital modes.

Otherwise I spent the afternoon not working anyone on 13cm.

Brian

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-04 19:37:38 UTC

Post by Brian Howie
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 18:10:07 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."

yes 10m fm mobile was quite good today with my alinco and full size stinger
antenna ....

Lots of SpE on 6m and 10m. I heard a loud PA on 14MHz, I also heard
our good buddies working the Skip on 27MHz, including one on morse
code and some on one the JT digital modes.
Otherwise I spent the afternoon not working anyone on 13cm.
Brian

yes well sold my DR635E so not on 2m any longer...a blessed relief
!....using the alinco DRM03 in the car these days much more activity than on
2 or 70 ....trying to figure out when a repeater needs continuous ctcss
tones...not bothered too much with in the past.... I know some need it to
bring it up but how do I know if it is needed continuously?????...can't find
any info

Brian Howie

2017-06-04 19:49:49 UTC

On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 20:37:38 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."

Post by Brian Howie
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 18:10:07 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."

yes 10m fm mobile was quite good today with my alinco and full size stinger
antenna ....

Lots of SpE on 6m and 10m. I heard a loud PA on 14MHz, I also heard
our good buddies working the Skip on 27MHz, including one on morse
code and some on one the JT digital modes.
Otherwise I spent the afternoon not working anyone on 13cm.
Brian

I've no idea. FM doesn't sound to good on the Short Waves, because of
the deep fading.

Brian

mm0fmf

2017-06-04 20:07:56 UTC

Post by Brian Howie
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 20:37:38 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."

Post by Brian Howie
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 18:10:07 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."

yes 10m fm mobile was quite good today with my alinco and full size stinger
antenna ....

Lots of SpE on 6m and 10m. I heard a loud PA on 14MHz, I also heard
our good buddies working the Skip on 27MHz, including one on morse
code and some on one the JT digital modes.
Otherwise I spent the afternoon not working anyone on 13cm.
Brian

I've no idea. FM doesn't sound to good on the Short Waves, because of
the deep fading.

FM sounded very good on the very short waves of 13cms this afternoon. I
worked 1 more than you.

Brian Howie

2017-06-05 11:10:45 UTC

Post by Brian Howie
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 20:37:38 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."

Post by Brian Howie
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 18:10:07 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."

yes 10m fm mobile was quite good today with my alinco and full size stinger
antenna ....

Lots of SpE on 6m and 10m. I heard a loud PA on 14MHz, I also heard
our good buddies working the Skip on 27MHz, including one on morse
code and some on one the JT digital modes.
Otherwise I spent the afternoon not working anyone on 13cm.
Brian

I've no idea. FM doesn't sound to good on the Short Waves, because of
the deep fading.

FM sounded very good on the very short waves of 13cms this afternoon. I
worked 1 more than you.

I didn't know you were out, then I could have failed to work you as
well. Where were you ?

I was heard in Sheffield, but nothing in return.

Brian

mm0fmf

2017-06-05 17:14:18 UTC

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Brian Howie
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 20:37:38 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."

Post by Brian Howie
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 18:10:07 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."

yes 10m fm mobile was quite good today with my alinco and full size stinger
antenna ....

Lots of SpE on 6m and 10m. I heard a loud PA on 14MHz, I also heard
our good buddies working the Skip on 27MHz, including one on morse
code and some on one the JT digital modes.
Otherwise I spent the afternoon not working anyone on 13cm.
Brian

I've no idea. FM doesn't sound to good on the Short Waves, because of
the deep fading.

FM sounded very good on the very short waves of 13cms this afternoon. I
worked 1 more than you.

I didn't know you were out, then I could have failed to work you as
well. Where were you ?
I was heard in Sheffield, but nothing in return.
Brian

In the spare bedroom looking out of the window towards Cairnpapple.

Brian Reay

2017-06-04 20:24:22 UTC

Post by Brian Howie
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 18:10:07 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."

yes 10m fm mobile was quite good today with my alinco and full size stinger
antenna ....

Lots of SpE on 6m and 10m. I heard a loud PA on 14MHz, I also heard
our good buddies working the Skip on 27MHz, including one on morse
code and some on one the JT digital modes.
Otherwise I spent the afternoon not working anyone on 13cm.
Brian

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-04 22:03:32 UTC

Post by Brian Howie
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 18:10:07 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."

yes 10m fm mobile was quite good today with my alinco and full size stinger
antenna ....

Lots of SpE on 6m and 10m. I heard a loud PA on 14MHz, I also heard
our good buddies working the Skip on 27MHz, including one on morse
code and some on one the JT digital modes.
Otherwise I spent the afternoon not working anyone on 13cm.
Brian

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-04 22:10:39 UTC

Post by Brian Howie
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 18:10:07 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."

yes 10m fm mobile was quite good today with my alinco and full size stinger
antenna ....

Lots of SpE on 6m and 10m. I heard a loud PA on 14MHz, I also heard
our good buddies working the Skip on 27MHz, including one on morse
code and some on one the JT digital modes.
Otherwise I spent the afternoon not working anyone on 13cm.
Brian

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

But is C not 77 c/s ? ......

Jeefaw K. Effkay

2017-06-05 06:10:12 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
yes well sold my DR635E so not on 2m any longer...a blessed relief
!....using the alinco DRM03 in the car these days much more activity than on
2 or 70 ....trying to figure out when a repeater needs continuous ctcss
tones...not bothered too much with in the past.... I know some need it to
bring it up but how do I know if it is needed continuously?????...can't find
any info

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

But is C not 77 c/s ? ......

Next time Gareth offers you one-to-one teKnical lessons, walk away. Quickly.

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-05 07:17:08 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
yes well sold my DR635E so not on 2m any longer...a blessed relief
!....using the alinco DRM03 in the car these days much more activity than on
2 or 70 ....trying to figure out when a repeater needs continuous ctcss
tones...not bothered too much with in the past.... I know some need
it
to
bring it up but how do I know if it is needed
continuously?????...can't
find
any info

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

But is C not 77 c/s ? ......

Next time Gareth offers you one-to-one teKnical lessons, walk away. Quickly.

look I'm only trying to find out when a 10m fm repeater requires continuous
ctcss tone...If I could find it on google I would as asking a question here
brings Guru reactions like yours .........never had any problem because
others with a tone had always brought them up and the cw at the end tells
you what tone is required A to J ..so..ALL I was asking was where does
brians C come into it?...simples.....(bloody professionals)

Brian Reay

2017-06-05 07:39:24 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
yes well sold my DR635E so not on 2m any longer...a blessed relief
!....using the alinco DRM03 in the car these days much more activity than on
2 or 70 ....trying to figure out when a repeater needs continuous ctcss
tones...not bothered too much with in the past.... I know some need
it
to
bring it up but how do I know if it is needed
continuously?????...can't
find
any info

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

But is C not 77 c/s ? ......

Next time Gareth offers you one-to-one teKnical lessons, walk away. Quickly.

You were told where it came from: CTCSS - Continuous Tone Controlled
Sub-audible Squelch- the C is for C continuous.

As usual, you were being stupid, no wonder you are an under achiever.

--
Suspect someone is claiming a benefit under false pretences? Incapacity
Benefit or Personal Independence Payment when they don't need it? They
are depriving those in real need!

https://www.gov.uk/report-benefit-fraud

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-05 07:58:43 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
yes well sold my DR635E so not on 2m any longer...a blessed relief
!....using the alinco DRM03 in the car these days much more activity than on
2 or 70 ....trying to figure out when a repeater needs continuous ctcss
tones...not bothered too much with in the past.... I know some need
it
to
bring it up but how do I know if it is needed
continuously?????...can't
find
any info

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

But is C not 77 c/s ? ......

Next time Gareth offers you one-to-one teKnical lessons, walk away. Quickly.

You were told where it came from: CTCSS - Continuous Tone Controlled
Sub-audible Squelch- the C is for C continuous.
As usual, you were being stupid, no wonder you are an under achiever.

look twat face I know it is continuous when it is switched on but I have
three 10m fm rigs that don't have CTCSS and only two that do so all I was
asking was how can I tell when a repeater requires continuous tone for
talking through and not just for the initial access to bring it up as I
don't want to waste my time trying to get a reply with a no tone rig...fuck
me do I need to ask on moderated to get a non-insulting reply? ........

Brian Reay

2017-06-05 08:51:55 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
yes well sold my DR635E so not on 2m any longer...a blessed relief
!....using the alinco DRM03 in the car these days much more activity than on
2 or 70 ....trying to figure out when a repeater needs continuous ctcss
tones...not bothered too much with in the past.... I know some need
it
to
bring it up but how do I know if it is needed
continuously?????...can't
find
any info

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

But is C not 77 c/s ? ......

Next time Gareth offers you one-to-one teKnical lessons, walk away. Quickly.

You were told where it came from: CTCSS - Continuous Tone Controlled
Sub-audible Squelch- the C is for C continuous.
As usual, you were being stupid, no wonder you are an under achiever.

You got a sensible reply. Then you tried to be silly by acting like the
class clown. Now you are making it worse.

--
Suspect someone is claiming a benefit under false pretences? Incapacity
Benefit or Personal Independence Payment when they don't need it? They are
depriving those in real need!

https://www.gov.uk/report-benefit-fraud

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-05 08:58:38 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
yes well sold my DR635E so not on 2m any longer...a blessed relief
!....using the alinco DRM03 in the car these days much more
activity
than on
2 or 70 ....trying to figure out when a repeater needs continuous ctcss
tones...not bothered too much with in the past.... I know some need
it
to
bring it up but how do I know if it is needed
continuously?????...can't
find
any info

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

But is C not 77 c/s ? ......

Next time Gareth offers you one-to-one teKnical lessons, walk away. Quickly.

You were told where it came from: CTCSS - Continuous Tone Controlled
Sub-audible Squelch- the C is for C continuous.
As usual, you were being stupid, no wonder you are an under achiever.

You got a sensible reply. Then you tried to be silly by acting like the
class clown. Now you are making it worse.

go fuck yourself brian..I think you don't realise some repeaters need CTCSS
switched in for you to gain talk through not just the initial bring up
......your problem not mine .....

Brian Reay

2017-06-05 09:41:43 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
yes well sold my DR635E so not on 2m any longer...a blessed relief
!....using the alinco DRM03 in the car these days much more
activity
than on
2 or 70 ....trying to figure out when a repeater needs continuous ctcss
tones...not bothered too much with in the past.... I know some need
it
to
bring it up but how do I know if it is needed
continuously?????...can't
find
any info

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

But is C not 77 c/s ? ......

Next time Gareth offers you one-to-one teKnical lessons, walk away. Quickly.

You were told where it came from: CTCSS - Continuous Tone Controlled
Sub-audible Squelch- the C is for C continuous.
As usual, you were being stupid, no wonder you are an under achiever.

You got a sensible reply. Then you tried to be silly by acting like the
class clown. Now you are making it worse.

go fuck yourself brian..I think you don't realise some repeaters need CTCSS
switched in for you to gain talk through not just the initial bring up
......your problem not mine .....

You can try to hide your lack of technical knowledge as much as you like
Jim, all you are doing is proving how little you know.

CTCSS is a continuous system, pure and simple, no matter what you try to
claim.

I suggest you go an play on CB, it is less technical and you can pretend
to be an expert.

Jeff

2017-06-05 11:12:29 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
You can try to hide your lack of technical knowledge as much as you like
Jim, all you are doing is proving how little you know.
CTCSS is a continuous system, pure and simple, no matter what you try to
claim.
I suggest you go an play on CB, it is less technical and you can pretend
to be an expert.

I think the point that Jim is trying to make is that some repeaters only
require the CTCSS tone if they are inactive and to bring them up in the
first place. That is certainly true for my local 70cms one, which once
transmitting no longer requires CTCSS to be there for access

Jeff

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-05 11:21:22 UTC

leave him his brain is too scrambled to understand what I was
asking...perhaps I will get a proper reply on moderated .....I just wanted
to know how to identify the few that require the tone to talk through .....

Brian Reay

2017-06-05 12:02:28 UTC

If he has CTCSS to bring them up them he has it to keep them open.

If the repeater only requires and initial CTCSS tone, it will be open
for him if he hasn't got a tone if he can hear it.

He is being obtuse- ie looking for a row.

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-05 12:27:14 UTC

If he has CTCSS to bring them up them he has it to keep them open.
If the repeater only requires and initial CTCSS tone, it will be open for
him if he hasn't got a tone if he can hear it.
He is being obtuse- ie looking for a row.

so what do I do with my two ic728s dx77 ct1 conversion and oascar conversion
? .. call away then find the repeater requires tone for a qso.....I would be
quite happy if I were told there are few like that on 10m or there was some
way of finding out to stop me calling away and wasting my time ....but no
off you go with the insults ......

Ian Jackson

2017-06-05 12:48:55 UTC

I think the point that Jim is trying to make is that some repeaters
only require the CTCSS tone if they are inactive and to bring them up
in the first place. That is certainly true for my local 70cms one,
which once transmitting no longer requires CTCSS to be there for access
Jeff

If he has CTCSS to bring them up them he has it to keep them open.
If the repeater only requires and initial CTCSS tone, it will be open
for him if he hasn't got a tone if he can hear it.
He is being obtuse- ie looking for a row.

I think the question is "Are CTCSS repeaters like the ones that use only
1750Hz toneburst?"

If a TB repeater is 'down', you need a burst of TB (sometimes plus a few
seconds of audio) to 'bring it up' - but once it's 'up', a blank carrier
will keep it 'up'.

I think that this isn't true for CTCSS, where the first C means what it
says. With an input carrier present, and when the repeater is 'up', it
will drop out if the CTCSS is removed.

--
Ian

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-05 12:54:41 UTC

I think the point that Jim is trying to make is that some repeaters
only require the CTCSS tone if they are inactive and to bring them up
in the first place. That is certainly true for my local 70cms one,
which once transmitting no longer requires CTCSS to be there for access
Jeff

If he has CTCSS to bring them up them he has it to keep them open.
If the repeater only requires and initial CTCSS tone, it will be open for
him if he hasn't got a tone if he can hear it.
He is being obtuse- ie looking for a row.

I think the question is "Are CTCSS repeaters like the ones that use only
1750Hz toneburst?"
If a TB repeater is 'down', you need a burst of TB (sometimes plus a few
seconds of audio) to 'bring it up' - but once it's 'up', a blank carrier
will keep it 'up'.
I think that this isn't true for CTCSS, where the first C means what it
says. With an input carrier present, and when the repeater is 'up', it
will drop out if the CTCSS is removed.

no offence Ian I know you are only trying to help but that is not generally
true....I am looking how to identify the find the few that are like that ...

Ian Jackson

2017-06-05 13:02:47 UTC

I think the point that Jim is trying to make is that some repeaters
only require the CTCSS tone if they are inactive and to bring them up
in the first place. That is certainly true for my local 70cms one,
which once transmitting no longer requires CTCSS to be there for access
Jeff

If he has CTCSS to bring them up them he has it to keep them open.
If the repeater only requires and initial CTCSS tone, it will be open for
him if he hasn't got a tone if he can hear it.
He is being obtuse- ie looking for a row.

I think the question is "Are CTCSS repeaters like the ones that use only
1750Hz toneburst?"
If a TB repeater is 'down', you need a burst of TB (sometimes plus a few
seconds of audio) to 'bring it up' - but once it's 'up', a blank carrier
will keep it 'up'.
I think that this isn't true for CTCSS, where the first C means what it
says. With an input carrier present, and when the repeater is 'up', it
will drop out if the CTCSS is removed.

no offence Ian I know you are only trying to help but that is not generally
true....I am looking how to identify the find the few that are like that ...

Are we talking about 10m or elsewhere?

2m and 70cm are well-documented, but I've lost touch with 10m.

--
Ian

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-05 13:05:45 UTC

I think the point that Jim is trying to make is that some repeaters
only require the CTCSS tone if they are inactive and to bring them up
in the first place. That is certainly true for my local 70cms one,
which once transmitting no longer requires CTCSS to be there for access
Jeff

If he has CTCSS to bring them up them he has it to keep them open.
If the repeater only requires and initial CTCSS tone, it will be open for
him if he hasn't got a tone if he can hear it.
He is being obtuse- ie looking for a row.

I think the question is "Are CTCSS repeaters like the ones that use only
1750Hz toneburst?"
If a TB repeater is 'down', you need a burst of TB (sometimes plus a few
seconds of audio) to 'bring it up' - but once it's 'up', a blank carrier
will keep it 'up'.
I think that this isn't true for CTCSS, where the first C means what it
says. With an input carrier present, and when the repeater is 'up', it
will drop out if the CTCSS is removed.

no offence Ian I know you are only trying to help but that is not generally
true....I am looking how to identify the find the few that are like that ...

Are we talking about 10m or elsewhere?
2m and 70cm are well-documented, but I've lost touch with 10m.

only 10m I have no 2m/70cms gear any longer

Ian Jackson

2017-06-05 14:35:55 UTC

I think the point that Jim is trying to make is that some repeaters
only require the CTCSS tone if they are inactive and to bring them up
in the first place. That is certainly true for my local 70cms one,
which once transmitting no longer requires CTCSS to be there for access
Jeff

If he has CTCSS to bring them up them he has it to keep them open.
If the repeater only requires and initial CTCSS tone, it will be open for
him if he hasn't got a tone if he can hear it.
He is being obtuse- ie looking for a row.

I think the question is "Are CTCSS repeaters like the ones that use only
1750Hz toneburst?"
If a TB repeater is 'down', you need a burst of TB (sometimes plus a few
seconds of audio) to 'bring it up' - but once it's 'up', a blank carrier
will keep it 'up'.
I think that this isn't true for CTCSS, where the first C means what it
says. With an input carrier present, and when the repeater is 'up', it
will drop out if the CTCSS is removed.

no offence Ian I know you are only trying to help but that is not generally
true....I am looking how to identify the find the few that are like that ...

Are we talking about 10m or elsewhere?
2m and 70cm are well-documented, but I've lost touch with 10m.

only 10m I have no 2m/70cms gear any longer

Ah! A real Class-A!

--
Ian

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-05 14:53:07 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
You can try to hide your lack of technical knowledge as much as you like
Jim, all you are doing is proving how little you know.
CTCSS is a continuous system, pure and simple, no matter what you
try
to
claim.
I suggest you go an play on CB, it is less technical and you can pretend
to be an expert.

I think the point that Jim is trying to make is that some repeaters
only require the CTCSS tone if they are inactive and to bring them up
in the first place. That is certainly true for my local 70cms one,
which once transmitting no longer requires CTCSS to be there for access
Jeff

If he has CTCSS to bring them up them he has it to keep them open.
If the repeater only requires and initial CTCSS tone, it will be open for
him if he hasn't got a tone if he can hear it.
He is being obtuse- ie looking for a row.

I think the question is "Are CTCSS repeaters like the ones that use only
1750Hz toneburst?"
If a TB repeater is 'down', you need a burst of TB (sometimes plus a few
seconds of audio) to 'bring it up' - but once it's 'up', a blank carrier
will keep it 'up'.
I think that this isn't true for CTCSS, where the first C means what it
says. With an input carrier present, and when the repeater is 'up', it
will drop out if the CTCSS is removed.

no offence Ian I know you are only trying to help but that is not generally
true....I am looking how to identify the find the few that are like that ...

Are we talking about 10m or elsewhere?
2m and 70cm are well-documented, but I've lost touch with 10m.

only 10m I have no 2m/70cms gear any longer

Ah! A real Class-A!

yes...no more line of sight class B radio telephones for me .........

Jeff

2017-06-06 06:49:27 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
I think that this isn't true for CTCSS, where the first C means what it
says. With an input carrier present, and when the repeater is 'up', it
will drop out if the CTCSS is removed.

It is certainly true for some repeaters, for example out local 70cms one
requires CTCSS to bring it up from cold, but then only needs carrier to
continue with the QSO.

Jeff

Ian Jackson

2017-06-06 07:45:50 UTC

It is certainly true for some repeaters, for example out local 70cms
one requires CTCSS to bring it up from cold, but then only needs
carrier to continue with the QSO.

So, as has been suggested in uk.r.a.m, it's just an LF version of the
1750Hz 'whistle-up'?

--
Ian

Jeff

2017-06-06 08:23:01 UTC

It is certainly true for some repeaters, for example out local 70cms
one requires CTCSS to bring it up from cold, but then only needs
carrier to continue with the QSO.

So, as has been suggested in uk.r.a.m, it's just an LF version of the
1750Hz 'whistle-up'?

Pretty much, but a bit more selective.

Jeff

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-05 11:22:29 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
yes well sold my DR635E so not on 2m any longer...a blessed relief
!....using the alinco DRM03 in the car these days much more
activity
than on
2 or 70 ....trying to figure out when a repeater needs
continuous
ctcss
tones...not bothered too much with in the past.... I know some need
it
to
bring it up but how do I know if it is needed
continuously?????...can't
find
any info

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

But is C not 77 c/s ? ......

Next time Gareth offers you one-to-one teKnical lessons, walk away. Quickly.

look I'm only trying to find out when a 10m fm repeater requires continuous
ctcss tone...If I could find it on google I would as asking a
question
here
brings Guru reactions like yours .........never had any problem because
others with a tone had always brought them up and the cw at the end tells
you what tone is required A to J ..so..ALL I was asking was where does
brians C come into it?...simples.....(bloody professionals)

You were told where it came from: CTCSS - Continuous Tone Controlled
Sub-audible Squelch- the C is for C continuous.
As usual, you were being stupid, no wonder you are an under achiever.

You got a sensible reply. Then you tried to be silly by acting like the
class clown. Now you are making it worse.

go fuck yourself brian..I think you don't realise some repeaters need CTCSS
switched in for you to gain talk through not just the initial bring up
......your problem not mine .....

You can try to hide your lack of technical knowledge as much as you like
Jim, all you are doing is proving how little you know.
CTCSS is a continuous system, pure and simple, no matter what you try to
claim.
I suggest you go an play on CB, it is less technical and you can pretend
to be an expert.

It is no wonder you were a crap teacher.......

FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI

2017-06-05 11:32:23 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
look twat face I know it is continuous when it is switched on but I have
three 10m fm rigs that don't have CTCSS and only two that do so all I was
asking was how can I tell when a repeater requires continuous tone for
talking through and not just for the initial access to bring it up as I
don't want to waste my time trying to get a reply with a no tone
rig...fuck me do I need to ask on moderated to get a non-insulting reply?
........

Are you serious? You want a non-insulting reply on UKRA?

--
;-)
.
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
.
http://turner-smith.uk

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-05 11:35:52 UTC

Post by FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI

Are you serious? You want a non-insulting reply on UKRA?

don't see why not .....

Ian Jackson

2017-06-05 12:52:21 UTC

Post by FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
look twat face I know it is continuous when it is switched on but I
have three 10m fm rigs that don't have CTCSS and only two that do so
all I was asking was how can I tell when a repeater requires
continuous tone for talking through and not just for the initial
access to bring it up as I don't want to waste my time trying to get
a reply with a no tone rig...fuck me do I need to ask on moderated to
get a non-insulting reply? ........

Are you serious? You want a non-insulting reply on UKRA?

Seeing it's you, Jim, I'm sure the moderators could be persuaded to make
an exception, and accidentally allow an insulting reply to slip through,

--
Ian

Jeefaw K. Effkay

2017-06-05 15:34:46 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
yes well sold my DR635E so not on 2m any longer...a blessed relief
!....using the alinco DRM03 in the car these days much more activity than on
2 or 70 ....trying to figure out when a repeater needs continuous ctcss
tones...not bothered too much with in the past.... I know some need
it
to
bring it up but how do I know if it is needed
continuously?????...can't
find
any info

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

But is C not 77 c/s ? ......

Next time Gareth offers you one-to-one teKnical lessons, walk away. Quickly.

I'm not aware of any repeaters which require CTCSS, and which do not require it to be on all the time.

I'm not aware of any commercially-made radios which allow you to enable CTCSS tone encode, and which do not then send the tone continuously.

But I'm not a professional radio amateur, so I could be wrong...!

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-05 15:58:06 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
yes well sold my DR635E so not on 2m any longer...a blessed relief
!....using the alinco DRM03 in the car these days much more
activity
than on
2 or 70 ....trying to figure out when a repeater needs continuous ctcss
tones...not bothered too much with in the past.... I know some need
it
to
bring it up but how do I know if it is needed
continuously?????...can't
find
any info

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

But is C not 77 c/s ? ......

Next time Gareth offers you one-to-one teKnical lessons, walk away. Quickly.

I'm not aware of any repeaters which require CTCSS, and which do not
require it to be on all the time.
I'm not aware of any commercially-made radios which allow you to enable
CTCSS tone encode, and which do not then send the tone continuously.
But I'm not a professional radio amateur, so I could be wrong...!

who knows ....

read RE-ACCESS..

https://www.ukrepeater.net/access.htm

mm0fmf

2017-06-05 17:17:07 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
yes well sold my DR635E so not on 2m any longer...a blessed relief
!....using the alinco DRM03 in the car these days much more activity than on
2 or 70 ....trying to figure out when a repeater needs continuous ctcss
tones...not bothered too much with in the past.... I know some need
it
to
bring it up but how do I know if it is needed
continuously?????...can't
find
any info

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

But is C not 77 c/s ? ......

Next time Gareth offers you one-to-one teKnical lessons, walk away. Quickly.

I'm not aware of any repeaters which require CTCSS, and which do not require it to be on all the time.
I'm not aware of any commercially-made radios which allow you to enable CTCSS tone encode, and which do not then send the tone continuously.
But I'm not a professional radio amateur, so I could be wrong...!

But you're not wrong.

Brian Reay

2017-06-05 18:48:40 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
yes well sold my DR635E so not on 2m any longer...a blessed relief
!....using the alinco DRM03 in the car these days much more
activity
than on
2 or 70 ....trying to figure out when a repeater needs continuous ctcss
tones...not bothered too much with in the past.... I know some need
it
to
bring it up but how do I know if it is needed
continuously?????...can't
find
any info

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

But is C not 77 c/s ? ......

Next time Gareth offers you one-to-one teKnical lessons, walk away. Quickly.

I'm not aware of any repeaters which require CTCSS, and which do not
require it to be on all the time.
I'm not aware of any commercially-made radios which allow you to
enable CTCSS tone encode, and which do not then send the tone
continuously.
But I'm not a professional radio amateur, so I could be wrong...!

But you're not wrong.

According our resident pervert/expert on all topics he is.

Of course, while he claim to have worked on such kit, it is all bunkum-
like his other claims.

Roger Hayter

2017-06-05 19:05:07 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
yes well sold my DR635E so not on 2m any longer...a blessed relief
!....using the alinco DRM03 in the car these days much more
activity
than on
2 or 70 ....trying to figure out when a repeater needs continuous ctcss
tones...not bothered too much with in the past.... I know some need
it
to
bring it up but how do I know if it is needed
continuously?????...can't
find
any info

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

But is C not 77 c/s ? ......

Next time Gareth offers you one-to-one teKnical lessons, walk away. Quickly.

I'm not aware of any repeaters which require CTCSS, and which do not
require it to be on all the time.
I'm not aware of any commercially-made radios which allow you to
enable CTCSS tone encode, and which do not then send the tone
continuously.
But I'm not a professional radio amateur, so I could be wrong...!

But you're not wrong.

According our resident pervert/expert on all topics he is.
Of course, while he claim to have worked on such kit, it is all bunkum-
like his other claims.

Whether all properly designed modern equipment sends the tone
continuously is an entirely separate issue from whether repeater
operators require it on all follow-up transmissions. They could do, but
it is a separate question.

--
Roger Hayter

Brian Reay

2017-06-05 19:25:01 UTC

Post by Roger Hayter

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
yes well sold my DR635E so not on 2m any longer...a blessed relief
!....using the alinco DRM03 in the car these days much more
activity
than on
2 or 70 ....trying to figure out when a repeater needs continuous ctcss
tones...not bothered too much with in the past.... I know some need
it
to
bring it up but how do I know if it is needed
continuously?????...can't
find
any info

If it needs CTCSS then it needs it continuously, the C is for Continuous.

right... thanks ....

But is C not 77 c/s ? ......

Next time Gareth offers you one-to-one teKnical lessons, walk away. Quickly.

I'm not aware of any repeaters which require CTCSS, and which do not
require it to be on all the time.
I'm not aware of any commercially-made radios which allow you to
enable CTCSS tone encode, and which do not then send the tone
continuously.
But I'm not a professional radio amateur, so I could be wrong...!

But you're not wrong.

According our resident pervert/expert on all topics he is.
Of course, while he claim to have worked on such kit, it is all bunkum-
like his other claims.

Oh dear, you aren't thinking Roger.

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2017-06-06 10:51:24 UTC

Post by Roger Hayter