bpete1969
2017-05-29 22:20:55 UTC
Pamela,
I noticed that you linked your last post here, at the Education Forum and
for that reason I am creating this post.
The Education Forum (as well as others) has a standing policy of not being
able to call a member a liar. I find that rather inconvenient at times and
don't really agree with the premise because a lie is a lie. If you can
prove that a person lied then you should be able to say so. Let the person
accused of lying defend their statement.
Judyth Very Faker is a perfect example of someone that will use that
policy as a way to make outrageous claims and then hide behind the
protection provided by such policies.
There have been many instances where JVB has been caught making statements
that don't match prior statements. In every instance, there is a reason
for the inconsistencies; someone misquoted her, someone is quoting
something from a stolen altered email, someone is quoting something from a
stolen altered manuscript. The list goes on.
I spent countless hours digging through threads at the Education Forum and
found several falsehoods by JVB.
The first was her claim that she and her fiance Robert Baker were using
code names to correspond during the brief time she was in New Orleans
alone, waiting for him to arrive. It was important for her to use the
"code name ruse" to explain why Oswald thought she was involved in their
undercover get Castro project. That claim is covered here...
http://www.bpete1969.com/2017/02/another-thread-unravelsa-pretty.html
The second inconsistency I covered was concerning her claim that she was
emancipated from her parents by a college Dean and that she was
"technically illegally" enrolled in the University of Florida 5 weeks
after the start of the Spring Semester. I can only guess that she felt she
had to show that she was so gifted and needed by the get Castro plotters
that rules were tossed aside, only for her. I don't get into the fact that
prior to her book, she claimed that Sen. George Smathers sought her out
and arranged the enrollment but in her book claims that it was her mother
and Aunt who contacted Smathers and arranged everything. The emancipation
claim is covered here:
http://www.bpete1969.com/2017/02/another-thread-unravelsa-pretty.html
I find it quite humorous that it was The George Smathers Library that held
the information that proved she was lying.
The last but most important instance of JVB pulling the wool over
everyone's eyes (in my opinion) is her claim that she met Oswald in the
Post Office. I guess you could say that I consider this as the "ground
zero" for all of her other claims about She & Lee.
John Simkin ran a thread about JVB at the Ed. Forum and JVB responded.
This was early in her shell game (March 2004). He asked her a simple
question and she provided a simple answer. Fast forward to 2010 and again,
the Ed. Forum was the place where Jim Fetzer started a thread to promote
Judyth and her newest incarnation of "The Book". You're familiar with "The
Book". The one that everyone must read. Have a question about two
contradictory statements by JVB? Then read "The Book". Have a question
about a particular referenced piece of evidence? You must read "The Book".
"The Book" would explain everything, even though "The Book" had yet to be
published and released.
JVB had stated at some point that when she met Oswald, he was dressed in
shabby clothes. David Lifton made comment to this fact as the reason he
didn't believe her story. Lifton had a copy of a document from the
employment agency used by Oswald and in that document it stated that on
the day JVB claimed to have met Oswald, he was dressed in a shirt and tie.
JVB now had a problem. She originally told Simkin that she met Oswald at
1:00 p.m. but because of Lifton's evidence, she had to allow time for
Oswald to change clothes for his trip to the employment agency. JVB had
been confronted with this timing problem well before 2010 and her last
re-write of "The Book". So, to accommodate Lifton's evidence, she
completely changed her story and stated that Oswald was dressed neatly
when she first met him. Unfortunately for JVB, she had forgotten what she
told Simkin in 2004 and now claimed that she met Oswald at 8:30 a.m. to
allow time for him to get a tie before going to the employment agency.
That claim is covered here:
http://www.bpete1969.com/2017/03/the-only-lie-that-matters.html
Unfortunately, the title of the blog contains the word "lie". And in the
Ed. Forum world, you can't use that word.
I find it ironic that in a group so dedicated to the "truth", one can't
use the word "lie" to denote a lie.
Good luck with your research. I have a feeling that if you think JVB is
the link to some hidden "truth" in a massive cover up that hinges on her
involvement, you'll need to buy a truck load of flashlight batteries. The
rabbit hole she inhabits is actually a maze of gopher holes and you'll do
well to buy stock in Duracell.
I noticed that you linked your last post here, at the Education Forum and
for that reason I am creating this post.
The Education Forum (as well as others) has a standing policy of not being
able to call a member a liar. I find that rather inconvenient at times and
don't really agree with the premise because a lie is a lie. If you can
prove that a person lied then you should be able to say so. Let the person
accused of lying defend their statement.
Judyth Very Faker is a perfect example of someone that will use that
policy as a way to make outrageous claims and then hide behind the
protection provided by such policies.
There have been many instances where JVB has been caught making statements
that don't match prior statements. In every instance, there is a reason
for the inconsistencies; someone misquoted her, someone is quoting
something from a stolen altered email, someone is quoting something from a
stolen altered manuscript. The list goes on.
I spent countless hours digging through threads at the Education Forum and
found several falsehoods by JVB.
The first was her claim that she and her fiance Robert Baker were using
code names to correspond during the brief time she was in New Orleans
alone, waiting for him to arrive. It was important for her to use the
"code name ruse" to explain why Oswald thought she was involved in their
undercover get Castro project. That claim is covered here...
http://www.bpete1969.com/2017/02/another-thread-unravelsa-pretty.html
The second inconsistency I covered was concerning her claim that she was
emancipated from her parents by a college Dean and that she was
"technically illegally" enrolled in the University of Florida 5 weeks
after the start of the Spring Semester. I can only guess that she felt she
had to show that she was so gifted and needed by the get Castro plotters
that rules were tossed aside, only for her. I don't get into the fact that
prior to her book, she claimed that Sen. George Smathers sought her out
and arranged the enrollment but in her book claims that it was her mother
and Aunt who contacted Smathers and arranged everything. The emancipation
claim is covered here:
http://www.bpete1969.com/2017/02/another-thread-unravelsa-pretty.html
I find it quite humorous that it was The George Smathers Library that held
the information that proved she was lying.
The last but most important instance of JVB pulling the wool over
everyone's eyes (in my opinion) is her claim that she met Oswald in the
Post Office. I guess you could say that I consider this as the "ground
zero" for all of her other claims about She & Lee.
John Simkin ran a thread about JVB at the Ed. Forum and JVB responded.
This was early in her shell game (March 2004). He asked her a simple
question and she provided a simple answer. Fast forward to 2010 and again,
the Ed. Forum was the place where Jim Fetzer started a thread to promote
Judyth and her newest incarnation of "The Book". You're familiar with "The
Book". The one that everyone must read. Have a question about two
contradictory statements by JVB? Then read "The Book". Have a question
about a particular referenced piece of evidence? You must read "The Book".
"The Book" would explain everything, even though "The Book" had yet to be
published and released.
JVB had stated at some point that when she met Oswald, he was dressed in
shabby clothes. David Lifton made comment to this fact as the reason he
didn't believe her story. Lifton had a copy of a document from the
employment agency used by Oswald and in that document it stated that on
the day JVB claimed to have met Oswald, he was dressed in a shirt and tie.
JVB now had a problem. She originally told Simkin that she met Oswald at
1:00 p.m. but because of Lifton's evidence, she had to allow time for
Oswald to change clothes for his trip to the employment agency. JVB had
been confronted with this timing problem well before 2010 and her last
re-write of "The Book". So, to accommodate Lifton's evidence, she
completely changed her story and stated that Oswald was dressed neatly
when she first met him. Unfortunately for JVB, she had forgotten what she
told Simkin in 2004 and now claimed that she met Oswald at 8:30 a.m. to
allow time for him to get a tie before going to the employment agency.
That claim is covered here:
http://www.bpete1969.com/2017/03/the-only-lie-that-matters.html
Unfortunately, the title of the blog contains the word "lie". And in the
Ed. Forum world, you can't use that word.
I find it ironic that in a group so dedicated to the "truth", one can't
use the word "lie" to denote a lie.
Good luck with your research. I have a feeling that if you think JVB is
the link to some hidden "truth" in a massive cover up that hinges on her
involvement, you'll need to buy a truck load of flashlight batteries. The
rabbit hole she inhabits is actually a maze of gopher holes and you'll do
well to buy stock in Duracell.